Back in business.
Some random thoughts:
Maestral wrote:Did I got it right, Xav - you`re the one who deleted the two mentioned topics?
Why? Why did you waited till today? Could you please share a thought or two on this matter?
Since the later topic was originally titled with my name, I`d appreciate to hear your reasons for deletion / now, and not when the first post was posted and what was it in "docmonom" (I`m not sure about the nick of that user) latest post on the same topic?
Got it archived "to some extent".
Don't think it would worth reuploading it.
Moini wrote:doctormon / doctormo is Martin Owens, Inkscape developer and Inkscape board member.
And as such, on the opposite side of this site to some extent.
As the "already moving time", "trying taking it down", and the purpose of the "comittee" goes.
Is that a good thing letting in a """trojan horse"""?
Well at least now the developers can have an insight of things an official forum WILL face as well once it grows as big...
Xav wrote:I just reacted to someone else's report of the topics being deleted and accounts being banned.
I did change the shared password, out of fear that the person who had performed those acts might also choose to change it themselves, locking all of us out. As I mentioned, I've sent the new details to Lazur for him to decide what to do with the account from now on.
Let's name the things:
Esper banned Brynn who reached Xav to take over before Esper would lock out everyone else...
Brynn got unbanned -as the original moderating functions can enable it, unlike the "one click ban" feature all moderators miss...-
and Xav changed the password.
Brynn already confirmed of not posting here under any circumstances, restricting herself to pm-s.
Of which it seemed
there wasn't much interest, of a previous pm.
Maestral wrote:I`ll be glad to participate but please bare in mind that I`ll consider as spam all of the posts spreading the rumors as well.
From my POV, microUgly might has no further interest in personal involving into this forum but since this forum has his relevance on the web, I`ll do my best to maintain it in order.
The revenge of the cleaning lady became quite personal and those who had shown lack of an integrity shall not expect much respect from me.
The reason why Brynn got banned was the signature containing such "rumour" or something similar.
Doesn't really matter.
microUgly got updated the hosting for another year AND added a capcha field for registrating.
That means he is still interested in, sort of.
Another fact is that the moderating as currently goes, is unreasonably too much.
You can look it up, microUgly somewhere announced changing back the first posts approval system since he was the only one accepting them at the time, which resulted in weekly latency, and as a result, the "helpdesking" to have no purpose.
Hit and run newbies couldn't profit from that.
Instead, we get all spam without confirmation.
After he chose me to moderate the system could be
changed back immediately to the first post approval one.
THAT is a feature largely missed.
Secondly, one click banning. As the spam can come through even
the capcha field, that was the only choice handling spam/spammers effectively.
Since the latest forum update of the phpbb board, that custom feature is gone.
Thirdly, as these two we already missing largely, to do the unreasonably large job, there NEEDS to be more moderators.
- first posts approval
- one click ban
- more moderators
The approval system may
have a personal reason/policy.
Don't ask me, it was working before...
The second feature was a custom one, would need to be rewritten -if possible. If interested...
Let's face it: microUgly can add moderating rights to anyone at anytime.
My guess is he can still be reached even if not responding, you could
get the rights.
But who would be good enough for that?
Xav wrote:Honestly, I don't want the responsibility of choosing who should be a moderator, and who shouldn't. I've deliberately tried to keep out of the politics and personality clashes, so don't really know enough of the history of anyone else on the site to decide whether or not they are "worthy" of the role. I'd really rather give that choice back to Lazur - it's his account, after all.
Equally, I don't feel that it's my choice as to who should have their posts summarily deleted. I don't really want to become a censor, but equally I don't want to be responsible for creating another. I had suggested your name, Maestral, as I thought you were a bit more level headed and impartial about the disagreements on the forum than you appear to be. Don't take it personally, but based on your previous post I think I'll hold off giving you the password.
Got my "new" account up.
Took a few days but could outsource the posts unrelated to moderating...
Since I don't want the blame for all the personal conflicts and associated in taking part of them.
Had shared my profile's access to everyone with good will. Risking myself getting "locked out".
Access to every post, right of writing posts with this profile -and as such associated with all the previous posts too-, reading pm-s and my mail adress.
Guess who could
do the same -all the previous moderators who are long gone and Brynn, who got fed up with it two years ago.
Still, after getting banned -after saying good bye-, pulling the strings?
Let that remain a rhetorical question.
Everyone have their reasons.
Regarding access to the profile's pm-s,
please Xav read what comes in and goes out next time.
"Shared profile" in the means you can also receive pm-s as a moderator.
Sent a reply to Druban with the details on Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:43 am.
On the "rumours":
the forum is lacking admin guidance since a very long time.
It is peaking now, but things got this worse at the last forum update to the extent that moderating is a hassle.
Was mentioned before to stop any moderating if it is a hassle,
so its just our hardly reasonable connection to this forum or the lack of urge to move on.
Personally speaking I don't think any inkscape dev or committe member could be blamed for trying to restart a forum from scratch
as there was/is still the possibility of our admin to act.