InksCape SVG as standard?

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Ponny
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InksCape SVG as standard?

Postby Ponny » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:44 pm

Meow

I wish to ask this question. If anybody know answer for this.

Plain SVG is standard. WEB browsers can open it. XARA vector based program can open.
But why inkscape SVG is not standard?

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Re: InksCape SVG as standard?

Postby Lazur » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:45 am

Hi.

Svg is developed by a working group of w3c. If you look at the member list, you can see inkscape is only represented by 1 developer -
Tavmjong Bah-, therefore the core spec is not about developing the standard following inkscape's special features.

Those features are for example: support of layers.
Svg specs doesn't have a layer element, inkscape uses special labeling of groups to implement that.
Adobe's main format is ai, which supports layers by default. They have yet another method of storing layer data when saving as svg.
The adobe team is represented by 5 people in the working group. If anything "adobe svg" would get standardised before inkscape svg, however it is not their native format -and they are not as close to the standard as inkscape (thinking of supporting filters to name one difference).

Plain svg is the "least common denominator".

Browsers and other programs can still open and edit inkscape svg-s as they are valid too, just they don't support the same features -like the mentioned layers.

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Re: InksCape SVG as standard?

Postby flamingolady » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:09 am

Interesting info Lazur. I assumed EPS would be the common denominator. (but this is all way too technical for me anyway, just thought it was interesting).

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Re: InksCape SVG as standard?

Postby Lazur » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:46 am

^"Least common denominator" in the sense of plain svg vs. inkscape svg.
Eps is another format unrelated to the svg specs.

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Re: InksCape SVG as standard?

Postby tylerdurden » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:51 am

AIUI,

Standards are generally the recommended ideal criteria, and often remain un-ratified while still providing a common basis for development and production.

Some svg files may be standards compliant - all contained elements are defined in the specification,
Some svg files may be standards compatible - no contained elements explicitly contradict the specification,
Some svg files may be incompatible /non-compliant, and destined for failure.

Viewers, renderers, editors, etc. may or may not support all aspects of a specification... Usually not, as specifications are frequently in-progress, incomplete and subject to change.

So, "a standard svg" is a bit of a misnomer.
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/


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