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concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby ha1flosse » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:19 pm

i was reading a post in finished work section from a guy believing in krishna which was considered as spam lately.. the post was kind of intersting to me and i wrote down some thoughts about it not able to post them cause the original post has been deleted so i'll post it here, maybe someone wants to talk about these concepts. the quotes are from the original post.

Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?


..but does this proof there is someone having a past either? maybe your believe you are a person that was born is already a mistake. all you can say about this is you are believing being someone.

and this believe had to be trained by your parents again and again. if youre looking at childs behaviour, kids don't believe to be a person until the age of 3 and until then they aren't believing having a past, a future or afterlife. so this all comes from the root of believing being a separated person, which is, as buddha said, the root of suffering.

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.


your proving of the fact krishna exists is just misleading. existence doesn't need any evidence to be what existence is so krishna doesn't need this proving either. in fact all you can prove that you are misleading yourself in imagination what krishna is. as the symbol krishna is pointing to what you are before imagination pops up, what you are in deep sleep, there wouldnt be any relative knowledge or doing getting you there except just being what you are which you can't avoid anyway. and like you said imagination is pretty restricted as you already cant imagine what yourself really is because it is not a relative of understanding. also god or krishna are not, if they were a relative of understanding you wouldnt call them god pointing to the frontiers of your believe and what you relatively think is behind them.

for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )


like said above your proving is just imagination trained by relatives. believing something about you or the knowledge you get doesnt mean the search is ending. its just scaling looking for god or something beyond imagination, in fact by looking for yourself (what you really are, not the person you believe you are) which is already beyond that. the curious thing about yourself or god is it doesnt need any acceptance for being, if you accept it or not it doesnt care. as long as there is a relative in personality the search will continue, acceptance wont stop this wheel of rebirth in imagination. youre just following ghosts they wont lead you anywhere.

Why should you waste your time?


because it is fun.

all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.


if you listen to what you are you will recognize that you are the truth nobody can reach by thoughts, words or spiritual practise. you will not and your master wont anyway. so who cares what hes talking about?

in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.


like buddha once said, believing youre a separated person is the root of all suffering. as soon as you are believing being a separate individual the thinking about the world and all the problems you might face will pop up immediately. maybe you can forget about yourself singing hare krishna or do meditation, but you could also sing rihanna or draw a picture with the same effect. not this or any practise will release you from the dilemma believing something. as soon as you fall back into thinking about you and the world, your suffering will continue. you cant do anything to avoid that if this is still necessary by existence and so youre forced to do so. just ask yourself who is suffering, who is happy, who is unhappy to find the root of your problems.

another thing is how can you be happy without being unhappy, or suffering without not doing it?

the medal always has two sides. as long as you tend to be something you believe or imagine and this is always blind regarding the truth you are. all you were pointing too are just concepts of happiness and suffering. in this case youll have to deal with both sides of the medal. if your master knows the truth, he should know about all these things too.

you can practise and follow your leaders anyway, and you will if existence necessarily will force you to do that, but you wont reach anything beyond the imagination youre already believing.

nothing will take you there, no master no leader no believe. just be what you are and krishna is. thats all and you dont need practise to do that.

other than that your doing will just lead you to other concepts and/or believes which is okay if you have fun doing it and wasting your time like this...

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Re: concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby Lazur URH » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:08 am

Oh that Krishna thing again? By your quote I remember seeing that before.
Probably it was reported by Espermaschine already this time so I haven't even read into the content.

By the way almost hitting my 14000th moderator action today.

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Re: concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby ha1flosse » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:15 am

yeah, that krishna - spam.. i realized better not to reply in spam threads after writing something about it, so i just wanted to share my thoughts here.

anyway thanks a lot for deleting the spam Lazur!

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Re: concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby Espermaschine » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:32 am

Lazur URH wrote:Probably it was reported by Espermaschine already this time so I haven't even read into the content

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Re: concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby druban » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:14 am

It's nice to see that you make good art and also spend time thinking about important questions, ha1!
Your mind is what you think it is.

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Re: concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby ha1flosse » Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:53 pm

many thanks! and yeah, its kind of fun to think and talk about things you can't put into "reality". so what do you think about these concepts?

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Re: concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby druban » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:33 am

I think that people who post long commentaries on short verses are saying that the original was not clear enough...
I feel that the only time a comment is worthwhile is when it is more concise, which, not surprisingly, is very rare.
Your mind is what you think it is.

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Re: concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby Lazur URH » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:56 am

Espermaschine wrote:Ommmmmmmmmmmmmm


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No worries, spam is so random that it is posted the same way at other forums as well.

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Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,

Postby nala » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:21 pm

Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link (moderated)
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.


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Re: concepts of krishna, existence and life

Postby Lazur URH » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:25 pm

Oh yes, the good 'ol one.

Enjoy anyone missing it.
(This is the third time of the exact message posted.)


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