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Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby MelM » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:57 pm

Hi all,

I am using Inkscape 0.91 on Windows 7 OS.

I have two text related questions.

1. When I copy/paste text from one svg file to another one, it automatically converts the text to objects (each letter is a single object). Is this a bug or do I need to do something to keep it from doing that?

2. I also had some text flowed into frame and tried copying and pasting that too, but it won't do anything...won't paste into the document. Though at the bottom of the new document after I paste it shows "Linked Flowed Text"...yet it is nowhere to be found on the new document. I zoomed way out and selected everything to try to see where it may have copied and nothing is there. Can you not copy flowed text to another document? No worries if not, easily worked around by converting it back to text, but was just curious.

Side Note: For Copy & Pasting the text in both scenarios, I tried doing it both ways: right click copy and right click paste, and Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby tylerdurden » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:37 pm

Hrrrmmmm....

I can't seem to duplicate the issue here.
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby brynn » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:31 am

Did the other SVG file originate in Inkscape? Can you share it with us, so we can test? (attach to message using full editor, and not quick reply)

For #1, are you sure the text is text, in the first SVG file? Could it have been converted to a path before you copied it?

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby MelM » Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:57 pm

Thanks for trying tylerdurden.

Brynn, thanks for your reply too. In answer to your questions...

1. Yes, both SVG files were created in Inkscape on my computer.
2. No, it was not converted to a path before I copied it....I did convert it back to text from being a "linked flowed text" before copying as I mentioned, but that shouldn't have caused this.
3. Sorry, I cannot share the file on this board as the designs on the file are propriety.

And this isn't the first time this has happened - it has happened several times before when I just typed in text (regular text vs. linked flowed) and then copy/pasted it (no converting to anything prior). Though I've been using Inkscape for 3-4 years now and never had this issue until I upgraded to v. 0.91. I also have been having intermittent issues with copying objects (designs drawn with bezier tool or shapes tool) and they sometimes paste in at a much smaller size than they were in the doc they originated from. Some of them were clipped and the clipping undid itself when pasted too, and a few had a blur or gradient that was lost upon pasting as well. Strange behaviours, but again...it's random and usually after a few tries I can get it to work the way it should.

Working on a theory I had...the majority of my Inkscape files are from version 0.48.4, and as I mentioned, I just upgraded to 0.91 this past June. The file I had created with the text was a version 0.91 file, but the file I copied the text into was version 0.48.4. So I just did some experimenting with copying text from new version SVG files to the old version SVG files...but oddly, it isn't happening again. I am using the same exact text that had converted to an object and putting it into the same exact file. I then created a new SVG file (v. 0.91) and typed something new in it and copied it to an old version SVG file and it did fine there too. So, just like the designs I had created that sometimes paste smaller or lost gradients and blurs, the text issue seems to be random as far as how it pastes too. I am thinking that this is most likely a bug issue then and it's not something I am doing wrong.

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby brynn » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:44 pm

It doesn't sound like you're doing anything wrong, if that's any comfort. But without a test case, it's hard to investigate. I haven't heard of any other complaints like this.

But if you see it happening again, with a file or object which you can share, please post and attach it.

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby hulf2012 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:32 am

hello
Not necessary have to be your original artwork. Just a sample file.
- Perhaps it's a combination of text font, particular style, etc.
- Maybe there is a particularity with your system. Have you installed some helping software for the paste-copy options, or for keyboard shortcuts?
-mmm... For converting a text to object the combination shift+ctrl+C is used, which is similar to ctrl + C.

Just a sample file (or files) please

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby MelM » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:26 pm

Hello again,

Sorry for the really long delay in getting a sample file posted up and revisiting this issue. I am still having this problem and just have been living with it (albeit with a lot of frustration), but I thought I'd go ahead and show you all what has been happening with a few sample files.

The svg file titled "Copy & Paste Issue1" has a sample of text and also an object in it with a few effects applied, and I copied them separately (text and object not grouped together) to a blank .svg doc, which is the "Copy & Paste Issue2" file. The text right away pasted the way I described in my original post here - size reduced and each letter is now an object. The object however pasted correctly when I first tried...wouldn't ya know. So I tried it again a few more times and finally it pasted in the way I described where size is reduced and various effects are lost.

Let me know if anyone can troubleshoot with those sample files.

Edit to Add: In answer to your question Hulf, no I don't have any other programs associated with inkscape that I use.

Thanks!
Mel
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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby brynn » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:26 pm

Hhm, I notice that both docs are 14 inches square. Are these custom templates or a custom default doc?

I haven't ever seen anything like this. I'd suggest making a bug report (unless ~suv posts that this issue is already known). https://launchpad.net/inkscape

In addition to details about the problem, be sure to give your Inkscape version and operating system. Whoever answers your report will ask you for any additional files or info they might need. You can only upload 1 file per message at LP, so you can zip those 2 together.

And if you don't mind, after you make the bug report, will you post a link here? I'd like to follow it. This is curious indeed!

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby hulf2012 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:04 am

Hello MelM
Thanks for your sharing those samples

I was expecting something uncommon from my point of view (stange characters, strange fonts, strange kernel) but nothing.
Checking your files with a text editor, at the begin of them it shows:

Code: Select all

inkscape:version="0.91 r13725"


But in my Inkscape, which is installed on Ubuntu Linux it shows:

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inkscape:version="0.91 r"


so maybe, you have an early release of Inkscape 0.91.

It's just a guess, but uninstall and try to reinstall the last version that appears here:
https://inkscape.org/en/download/windows/

If the problem persists... I'll go for the bug diagnosis :ugeek: . A bug very hard to see and catch

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If you have problems:
1.- Post a sample (or samples) of your file please.
2.- Please check here:
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3.- If you manage to solve your problem, please post here your solution.

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby ~suv » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:35 am

hulf2012 wrote:Checking your files with a text editor, at the begin of them it shows:

Code: Select all

inkscape:version="0.91 r13725"

But in my Inkscape, which is installed on Ubuntu Linux it shows:

Code: Select all

inkscape:version="0.91 r"

so maybe, you have an early release of Inkscape 0.91.

There is only one release of stable Inkscape 0.91, and that's revno 13725. Some Linux packages are known to miss the revision number in the about string (likely also Inkscape's own PPA for the stable release version 0.91, which you might have installed if on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS), but are expected to be built on exactly the same source (Inkscape 0.91 r13725) as elsewhere.

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby hulf2012 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:29 am

:oops:

So, it is a bug, (I'm talking about the original poster problem)?
If you have problems:
1.- Post a sample (or samples) of your file please.
2.- Please check here:
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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby MelM » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:56 pm

Brynn, I came in here to let you all know I had created a bug report and was getting ready to upload the attachments over there when I saw you had uploaded my attachments there already for me....thanks! I provided the installer info that ~suv asked for.

Here is the link to the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1542968

EDIT TO ADD: Brynn, forgot to answer your question about the document size. Yes, I customized the size of the document to 14 x 14 when I made the samples...I sometimes change my doc size with various projects vs. have it set to always be that 14 x 14 size (in other words, it is set to the default doc size when I open a new Inkscape doc), but in many cases I just leave it at the size it defaults to so I don't think it has anything to do with that as it has happened on the default doc sizes too.

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby brynn » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:56 pm

At first I thought it might be something wrong with a custom template. But it will be interesting to find out what's happening!

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby tylerdurden » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:15 am

I agree with suv's comments in the bug list, it seems suspiciously like the X11 pasteboard/clipboard issue, but of course not mac in this case unless noted.

Melm, are there any system enhancement features like screen magnification, multi monitor, rotation, etc.? Or perhaps other programs like screen capture, fancy cursors, custom themes, tv/video, display overlays?

Or perhaps running windows or other os in a virtual machine?
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: Text Converts To Object When Pasted Into Another SVG File

Postby MelM » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:08 pm

Hi Tyler,

No to all of your questions. Though I am using an external monitor for my laptop (but only using the external screen, not both), however, I have always used this external monitor prior to updating to 0.91 and didn't have any issues before. No changes have been made to my system prior to updating to 0.91, or afterwards for that matter either (other than the usual Windows updates).

Thanks for helping with the troubleshooting though...let me know if you can think of anything else to consider.


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