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paisley pattern

Postby jimscape » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:19 am

Hi All,

Another newbie and just wanted to find out how may questions have to be asked before you can post?

I have a specific question relating to creating a paisley image but when I put the query in the search box, nothing comes up?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks...

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Re: Newbie

Postby Lazur » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:58 am

Welcome aboard!

First two posts needs to be approved -which decreases the spam by 90+%.
Most new users seeking for help head to the help section.
Can remember an old paisley tutorial, maybe you saw this one already?:
http://verysimpledesigns.com/vectors/inkscape-tutorial-paisley-motif.html

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Re: Newbie

Postby brynn » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:55 pm

There are probably a few different ways to draw a paisley image. Maybe even several!

Are you talking about creating a single comma shape? Or are you thinking about a whole page of them? Maybe if you could show us an example we could give the best answer.

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Re: Newbie

Postby jimscape » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:29 pm

Hi Lazur and thank you for the welcome.

I did look in the help section but couldn't find anything there.

And YES this is exactly the tutorial I was following :)

However when I choose the bezier and set the mode to spiro its OK when I start, then position 2 but when I try to go 3 the spiro kicks in and doesn't let me create the shape?

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Re: Newbie

Postby jimscape » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:39 pm

Not sure if I can do this yet but here is a screen grab of sorts, showing what happens (left) between stage 1-2-3 with the finished image to the right. When really what I expected was something like this (right screen) and make the curved changes universally?

Sorry tried to upload an image but cant...

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Re: Newbie

Postby jimscape » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:48 pm

Hi Brynn,

Yes, just a single image.

I think the screenshot might help here but I guess that will have to wait until I have enough posts?

I hope this string with the explanations helps other newbs with some inkscape queries, its got me flummoxed. Still that wouldn't be hard just picking up this tool for the first time :)

One other thing; when I try to use the elipse tool I get an odd shape little ellipse and its follows me around the page but I just cant seem to anchor it or set its width and height in px ??

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Re: Newbie

Postby jimscape » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:13 pm

I've tried to upload a screenshot in png and gif but get this error?

Invalid file extension: inkscape-forum-paisley.gif

Does it have to be an inkscape extension?

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Re: Newbie

Postby Lazur URH » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:36 pm

As far as I know attachments are not allowed on every board on this forum.
Maybe time to move this topic to the help section.

Edit: done. Also edited the first message so it may get more focus.

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby jimscape » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:56 pm

Thanks Lazur,

I'll try again - Screenshot?

inkscape-forum-paisley.gif
I think it might have done it this time.
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Re: paisley pattern

Postby jimscape » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:06 pm

So position 1 and 2 - I have my line like dot to dot.

However when I try to go down to point 3, although it says Shape 'None' - The spiro takes over and I cant take it further to create a similar image to the one on the right of the screen.

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby jimscape » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:57 pm

Hi All,

Really stuck with this now. Been trying to find out all I can but I'm obviously not explaining this very well.

So I hope the attached image helps?

I've zoomed out so you can see all that all the elements on the page have been grabbed.
You'll see that the image I'm working on I've managed to change some colours and that's the image I'm trying to get into again.

However every button or arrow I try to click seems to be locked and I cant do anything.

*I know that what I'm doing is a basic newbie error but if I could find out why I wouldn't be bothering anyone on the forum :oops:

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby jimscape » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:17 pm

I'm trying to create a drawing like this.

Easy enough to start No1 but when I get to 2 do I click enter or something else to get to No3?

If I click enter I end up with a red box at position 2 but cant get to No3 without the spiro taking over?

I'm using an Acer laptop without a mouse, could this be the problem as some videos I've looked at mention press the left mouse?

Sorry about this but keen to get started

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby Xav » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:27 pm

As of 0.92 the spiro effect is applied live, so you have two options:

1) Just click in the places indicated and let the spiro sort itself out as you go along. If you hold shift whilst closing the path, your first/last point will be a cusp node, and you can skip all the bit about changing the nodes to auto-smooth.

2) Don't enable spiro mode and just draw the path with straight lines as it appears in the tutorial. You'll then need to add the spiro effect from the Live Path Effects dialog, and change the node types to get it to kick in.

The first option is probably easier, but you need to have a little faith that the spiro shape will sort itself out as you go along.
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Re: paisley pattern

Postby jimscape » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:05 pm

Thanks Xav,

So do I begin holding the shift or any or key?
If I don't hold it I cant get further than No2
Hold the alt or ctrl key?
Press the enter at each stage?

I know I'm missing something really evident here. Used adobe fireworks etc for years but I know this is a great tool and that's why I'm here but I'm just not getting this and its making me feel a bit daft tbh!

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby conormcg » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:22 pm

Yes, you need to hold the shift key in the beginning.

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby Xav » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:54 pm

Assuming version 0.92:

1) Select the :tool_pen: tool and enable spiro mode
2) Click the first point, without holding any modifiers.
3) Click the second, third, fourth... You will get a spiro shape drawn, not straight lines. Just go with it.
4) Repeat until the last distinct point (11 in your image)
5) Hold shift and click on the first point to close the shape.

Holding shift just ensures that the first/last point is a cusp node. If you don't hold shift you can still select the node afterards using the :tool_node: tool and explicitly change it to a cusp node for the same effect.
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Re: paisley pattern

Postby jimscape » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:54 am

Thanks Xav and conormcg,

Yes it is 0.92

Still something going wrong here and I think I'm doing all you say.

I've got this far but no matter how many times I try it. The space between N1 and 2 are always in a straight line and I've always kept the end point not selected i.e. not a blue marked box. Although I have noticed that point No2 is a blue square when the rest apart from 1 are circles??

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby Xav » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:48 am

Not sure how the second point is a cusp (diamond shaped corner node) unless you were holding Shift whilst clicking. But anyway, you can just select that node using the :tool_node: tool and convert it into a smooth node using the button on the toolbar.
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Re: paisley pattern

Postby Xav » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:14 am

Taking a leaf out of Tylerdurden's book:

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby jimscape » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:18 am

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant :D

Thanks Xav, I'll give this a try!!

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby Lazur » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:14 am

Xav wrote:Image


Off topic:
What program do you use for the key capturing? Is there a win alternative for free?

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby Xav » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:57 pm

Off topic:
It's called "key-mon", and is in the Ubuntu repositories. I don't know of an equivalent for Windows, but a quick Google based on the name suggests a few alternatives.
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Re: paisley pattern

Postby Moini » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:38 pm

off-topic: key-mon and peek rule! :)
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Re: paisley pattern

Postby tylerdurden » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:21 am

OT screen recorders... continued here: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32880
Have a nice day.

I'm using Inkscape 0.92.2 (5c3e80d, 2017-08-06), 64 bit win8.1

The Inkscape manual has lots of helpful info! http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/

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Re: paisley pattern

Postby Moini » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:25 am

Thanks!
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